The Kansas Meadowlark

The Shame of Kansas

O'Reilly Factor Talking Points, May 30 2007

What's the Matter with Kansas?
"Governor Kathleen Sebelius is protecting Tiller ... She is not fit to serve."
(Updated Aug 20, 2007)

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No Matter What You Think About Abortion You Should Be Disturbed by the Situation in Kansas

"Some Kansas officials are trying to deal with Tiller the Baby Killer, but ...

Governor Kathleen Sebelius may be protecting him.  We'll have a Factor investigation. 


Killing babies.  That's the subject of tonight's Talking Points Memo.  

No matter what you think about the abortion issue, you should be very disturbed by what continues to happen in Kansas.

This man, Dr. George Tiller, known as “Tiller the baby killer,” is performing late term abortions without defining the specific medical reasons why.


Let's be more blunt. Tiller is executing fetuses in his Wichita clinic for $5,000. And records show he'll do it for vague medical reasons. That is, he'll kill the fetus, viable outside the womb, if the mother wants it dead. No danger to the mother's life, no catastrophic damage if the woman delivers.
Now, some Kansas politicians want to stop the madness. But incredibly, Governor Kathleen Sebelius is protecting Tiller, citing privacy. The governor vetoed a bill a few weeks ago that would have forced Tiller to provide a specific medical reason for destroying a viable fetus.
Now America is a great country, but this kind of barbaric display in Kansas diminishes our entire nation. Tiller has killed thousands, thousands of late-term fetuses without explanation. And Governor Sebelius is allowing him to continue the slaughter. How the governor sleeps at night is beyond me.
There are Americans who believe that babies that are about to be born are not human beings. How they form that conclusion is interesting. And only a handful of doctors in the USA will perform late-term abortions for any reason, because doctors know viable life when they see it. Now a few months ago, we talked with a young woman who allowed Tiller to kill her fetus. Here's part of what she had to say.

KELLY (Dec 12,2006): And about the third or fourth day, Dr. Tiller came in and injected into the amniotic sack saline solution, which suffocated and burned my baby to death. They decide that you are dilated enough and they put you in a wheelchair and wheel you out to another room.

And in this other room, there is basically a toilet. And they told me to sit on the toilet, lean on the nurse, and push. Push my baby into a toilet. And after that, they wheel you into another room to remove all the, you know, after birth. And really that's the only two times I ever saw the doctor was when he injected the saline solution and when he finished the process by removing the after birth.

And the woman was just 14-years old when Tiller operated on her. She is haunted by her decision to this day.
It's ironic that organizations like Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International say nothing about the work of Dr. Tiller. Apparently executing viable fetuses in the womb is OK with the human rights people.

Once again, this isn't about a woman's right to choose or The New York Times’ plea for reproductive rights. This is about late term abortions for just about any reason. 

No question Dr. Tiller has blood on his hands, but now so does Governor Sebelius. She is not fit to serve. Nor is any Kansas politician who supports Tiller's business of destruction. I wouldn't want to be these people if there is a judgment day.

And that's the "Memo."

Now for the top story tonight:  Reaction to the Sebelius veto.

O'Reilly:  Joining us now from Kansas City is Kansas Representative Ben Hodge. I can't believe in a state like Kansas -- not San Franciso, it's not Madison, WI, it's not Boulder, CO -- that politicians there in both parties continue to allow this doctor in Wichita to kill these late-term fetuses with absolutely no specific medical reason.  I cannot believe the state legislature of Kansas continues to allow it to happen.  

Hodge:  Many people don't know that late-term abortions are legal.  Many educated people just aren't aware of that.  Many people aren't aware that as a central location, Kansas, most of the late term abortions on viable babies in the state of Kansas occur on women who are from other states.

O'Reilly:  And other countries.  Because this barbaric procedure is outlawed in most countries of the world.  Now, the law in Kansas does say, however, there's got to be a viable medical reason for these terminations ... murders, whatever word you want to use ... to happen, does it not?

Hodge:  It does, and it actually should be followed already.  The way George Tiller and other abortionists have interpreted it is that they just have to report the fact that there was a medical condition.  They have gone around that for years now.  They haven't reported what the medical condition is.  So what the Kansas legislature did this year was to reiterate and clarify into Kansas law that when a late term abortion occurs -- and if there's a medical condition -- the abortionists have to report what that medical condition is.  What we're concerned is happening, and what two judges have found, is that there's probable cause that George Tiller is performing illegal late term abortions. Likely, women are saying they have temporary mental health reasons, and that under Kansas Law is not a valid reason.

O'Reilly:  You did pass that law.  The Kansas Legislature passed the law that Tiller -- and he's the only one doing it in Kansas -- he's the only barbarian who they can find to do this -- [he] advertises on his web site all of that.  You pass the law that Tiller had to give the state a medical reason -- a viable reason why he's killing the fetuses -- and then the governor steps us and vetoes the law, but I didn't see any outcry in the press.  Mr. Hodge, I didn't see any outcry by the people of Kansas, but this governor [is] basically saying "Hey Tiller, you kill as many fetuses as you want for whatever reason you want.  That's what the governor is saying?

Hodge:  Well, the governor has a lot of money riding on this. She'd like to be the White House VP candidate, or a  cabinet member, or she'll run for Senate in 2010 if nothing else works out for her in '08.  And she was dishonest on this.  She said that there were privacy concerns.  Already under Kansas Law for years Tiller has already reported, not the names, not information that could be used to identify the women, but he has already been reporting that there is a medical condition. So, all we're saying is on top of that "tell us what it is".  That's a completely bogus claim.  

O'Reilly:  I don't know whether you know this or not, Mr. Hodge,  but here's a list of the money that Tiller gave Sebelius in donations. Here it is.  Did you know that?
[Meadowlark's note:  Here's an online source of Tiller's contributions to Sebelius.]

Hodge:  Wouldn't surprise me.  

O'Reilly:  You didn't know it though, did you?

Hodge:  No.  Well, I didn't know that ...

O'Reilly:  He's [inaudible] ... since 1994 given her money.  You know, Mr. Hodge, Kansas is a great state, but this is a disgrace upon everyone who lives in Kansas.  Is it not?

Hodge:  At times I think it is.  I think at times in American history there will be times when branches of government fail the people and this is one of those times.  It requires other branches of government to step up to the plate and that's what we're asking the Speaker of the House to do, and we're asking our Democratic Attorney General ... 

O'Reilly:  We're asking all our viewers all over the world to get in touch with the Governor of Kansas and tell her what you think.   Mr. Hodge, thanks for being on the right side of this, and continue to try to get something done about this barbarian, Tiller. 

Hodge:  Thank you, Bill. 

Radio Factor on May 31, 2007:

Hour 2:  Is Kansas gov protecting Dr. Tiller?
Is Dr. George Tiller, a doctor performing late-term abortions in Kansas, being protected from the law by that state's governor? That's what some are saying. You can weigh in during the second hour of the Radio Factor.

E-mail response from Thursday night, May 31, 2007:

O'Reilly:  Lots of reaction to the Governor of Kansas, Kathleen Sebelius, protecting Dr. George Tiller, a late term abortion doctor, known as Tiller the Baby Killer.

O'Reilly's response to Marci Greenberg, Austin, TX:  

I'm not resting, Marci.  You may believe it's OK to kill a viable fetus for any reason but most Americans don't, madam.  

O'Reilly's response to Gloria Reed, Houston, TX:

The court ruled that the states could outlaw the barbaric practice of partial birth abortion but late term abortion is a different procedure. Most states ban it, but Kansas does not.  

O'Reilly's response to Ann Olgert, Tampa, FL:

Hard to believe that you'd hold a 13 year old responsible but give a doctor, who poisons fetuses on a daily basis, a pass ... Hard to believe.

No response by O'Reilly to Adam Newman's letter.

No response by O'Reilly to Adam Newman's letter.
O'Reilly's response to Don Milbocker, Winter Haven, FL:

You know there's another body involved here, sir.  That is a viable fetus.  And this is every American's business:  it goes to protecting the weakest among us. 


Political cartoon courtesy of John Francis Borra, Hays, KS




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